Recruitment System Discussion & Old Horde Stuff
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Recruitment System Discussion & Old Horde Stuff
Because all of us in the officer team currently have jobs, we've recently been unable to run much RP stuff beyond the usual events every other night. Consequently, the RP has been dwindling, especially on Horde side.
→This thread← on the realm forums reminded me that The Eclipse Caravan could really be useful for the Horde side, but I couldn't think of any ways to make the guild more active (while also keeping ToB alive).
→This thread← on the realm forums reminded me that The Eclipse Caravan could really be useful for the Horde side, but I couldn't think of any ways to make the guild more active (while also keeping ToB alive).
So! This thread is for suggestions on how to improve things, particularly on Horde, but suggestions for the Alliance are welcome as well! Please actually comment here if you have any ideas.
Go!
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Webbles- Admin
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Zalembi's quest for herbs
As Zalembi pointed out last meeting, he needs a rare herb called Mortblossom to use in one of his rituals. He is looking to assemble a small party to accompany him and Darkfang to find the herb. Do you heed the call?
Trouble at the Workshop
This will be more of an server-wide event on alliance, but Gripgrap has been getting unsettling messages from one of his workshops in the south of the Eastern Kingdoms. He is going to assemble a party to check it out and ensure that trade nodes for the weapons of the alliance remain unharmed.
Gripgrap's search for his mentor
Gripgrap mentioned to Caviel the other day that one of his long-time wishes is to visit his old mentor, Grombom Mendcog. Mendcog is likely venerable around now and probably doesn't have much time to live, so Gripgrap wants to visit him before he passes away. A oppertunity to learn about gnomes and their culture and a personal touch of Grip's backstory.
If I think of more, I'll let you know
As Zalembi pointed out last meeting, he needs a rare herb called Mortblossom to use in one of his rituals. He is looking to assemble a small party to accompany him and Darkfang to find the herb. Do you heed the call?
Trouble at the Workshop
This will be more of an server-wide event on alliance, but Gripgrap has been getting unsettling messages from one of his workshops in the south of the Eastern Kingdoms. He is going to assemble a party to check it out and ensure that trade nodes for the weapons of the alliance remain unharmed.
Gripgrap's search for his mentor
Gripgrap mentioned to Caviel the other day that one of his long-time wishes is to visit his old mentor, Grombom Mendcog. Mendcog is likely venerable around now and probably doesn't have much time to live, so Gripgrap wants to visit him before he passes away. A oppertunity to learn about gnomes and their culture and a personal touch of Grip's backstory.
If I think of more, I'll let you know
Gripgrap- Posts : 44
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The only idea I can think of is more people running their own events! Take initiative and don't be scared to try! Just ask one of us officers if you need ideas or lore comformation.
Oacenth- Admin
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Horde side I think we may have set off too early. Might be an idea to stick to some hubs still, build up the community with others, and -then- work on travelling and a show. When we were in Silvermoon I recall six odd people logging Horde side basically every evening, and showing a presence around other guilds etc, and it attracted more people. I personally enjoy small scale RP, but it could be handy if we took a step back from the travelling as of now, get some incentives to get going, start some storylines, then head out again when activity is stable.
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We also figured that Bellatrixx can portal us back to captial cities, so we can still rp at the hubs.
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What Oacenth said! I mentioned this at a previous Horde meeting, but everyone seems to have fogotten that.
It was never the intention that travelling and living in/near the Caravan would prevent us from taking part in other RP, especially visiting the hubs.
It was never the intention that travelling and living in/near the Caravan would prevent us from taking part in other RP, especially visiting the hubs.
Webbles- Admin
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I would have thought it might have been kinda restrictive, but I'm happy to RP around the hubs more often in the week etc.
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Naroma wrote:I would have thought it might have been kinda restrictive, but I'm happy to RP around the hubs more often in the week etc.
This. Morguna and Zalembi are both interesting characters and I think only RPing them once a week is a bit of a waste. Could be fun.
Might be good to go on the occasional monday. Alliance doesn't have anything important planned on that day anyway.
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And Wednesdays will be free now. Gonna be too busy to keep up the amount of things I attend as it is, so won't be running the Explorers.
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I could run the occasional event or two on Wednesday.
Gripgrap- Posts : 44
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Use the time for Horde side if you're willing to, we have plenty going on in ToB
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We do need more time on horde. Wednesdays would be useful.
Oacenth- Admin
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Yeah that can be a good start (although I won't be able to attend ) but we also really need more stuff to happen through random RP.
We especially need to establish connections between the other guilds on Horde. Which means we need to RP with Skarain. Yay.
We especially need to establish connections between the other guilds on Horde. Which means we need to RP with Skarain. Yay.
Webbles- Admin
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I answered to this thread with something I had in mind for Theatre. I moved it to the Event Preferences thread.
Eclipse wise I'd say we could small scale show-off's in taverns and inns. Then again, as we're travelling around we could as well trip to the gray zone and take some minor tasks such as smuggling and trading questionable items, such as bloodthistle.
Eclipse wise I'd say we could small scale show-off's in taverns and inns. Then again, as we're travelling around we could as well trip to the gray zone and take some minor tasks such as smuggling and trading questionable items, such as bloodthistle.
Ciram- Posts : 24
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Oh, I just went to see your suggestion for the Theatre and forgot you said something about the Eclipse as well! I actually made a small scale show for this Saturday afternoon, and the smuggling and trading of questionable items is, indeed, a part of our concept. We just need customers for that!
On a different topic, what do you all think of having a tabard for the guild? It doesn't really fit the theme, but sometimes you really need a tabard to make your transmog look less horrible. Also the default picture looks stupid on the guild roster and our armoury page.
How could we make a tabard fit the theme?
On a different topic, what do you all think of having a tabard for the guild? It doesn't really fit the theme, but sometimes you really need a tabard to make your transmog look less horrible. Also the default picture looks stupid on the guild roster and our armoury page.
How could we make a tabard fit the theme?
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Now that we're back in Stormwind, we're starting to 'selectively' recruit people again, and I thought we should make our recruitment process match this 'selectiveness'.
Essentially this means we should be elitist IC, while doing our best to not come across as elitists OOC. That wouldn't work very well if we just interview people and decline 75% of them.
So! What could our IC recruitment process include, in addition to the interview?
Also the interview itself could be developed to better separate the wheat from the chaff.
Essentially this means we should be elitist IC, while doing our best to not come across as elitists OOC. That wouldn't work very well if we just interview people and decline 75% of them.
So! What could our IC recruitment process include, in addition to the interview?
Also the interview itself could be developed to better separate the wheat from the chaff.
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Personally, I think maybe we should decide on select questions to ask in the interviews. That way the members with the highest rank could also participate in holding the interviews?
Also perhaps some sort of rp where the person wanting to join would have to show their skills and such to prove they would make a good agent? Like maybe send them on some field test. This would not only show us their IC skills but show us how they Rp in an event environment.
Also perhaps some sort of rp where the person wanting to join would have to show their skills and such to prove they would make a good agent? Like maybe send them on some field test. This would not only show us their IC skills but show us how they Rp in an event environment.
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I agree 100% with what Oacenth says. Getting a grip on how people RP in different environments/circumstances (and what they think their skills are OOC vs how they actually RP) is very important.
Kylora- Posts : 34
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Yeah I had something similar in mind, but the question is: what exactly is the field test and how does it make sense IC, and how is it arranged OOC?
And yeah select questions, but again, what are they (other than the obvious ones we already ask)? Perhaps something to test their lore knowledge, perhaps something to test their logic and maybe even some short personality test (if we can find one that is simple enough)?
EDIT: Also perhaps we should think of a different 'field test' for each branch.
And yeah select questions, but again, what are they (other than the obvious ones we already ask)? Perhaps something to test their lore knowledge, perhaps something to test their logic and maybe even some short personality test (if we can find one that is simple enough)?
EDIT: Also perhaps we should think of a different 'field test' for each branch.
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Well the field test makes sense Icly, because we have to have skilled agents as some of the missions they will be sent on can be extremely 'life-threatening' so we have to make sure they wont just go on the mission and die. And for brief examples, the assassin tree can go on a simple assassination, the spy tree can collect information off of a target, and then I guess for the specialists it depends on what kind of stuff they can bring forward.
I like the idea of a personality test because lets face it, Icly we have to trust these people and we wouldn't want to trust people with certain characteristics with our lives.
As for the questions, I like the idea of having various questions to test their knowledge, but at the same time, just because they know some lore, doesn't mean their character would. So thinking of questions is going to be a tough one..
I like the idea of a personality test because lets face it, Icly we have to trust these people and we wouldn't want to trust people with certain characteristics with our lives.
As for the questions, I like the idea of having various questions to test their knowledge, but at the same time, just because they know some lore, doesn't mean their character would. So thinking of questions is going to be a tough one..
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Considering recent developments, a string of "what would you do if someone above you in rank gave you an order you don't agree with" and/or "what would you do if someone above you in rank went rogue" is probably a good idea.
Assassin field test could just be a weapon demonstration (or perhaps an emote battle against someone else). Spies could do something similar to what we did with Edwin, trying to get a bit of information out of another agent, or observe an area/staged happenings to report about. Specialists... hm... something to demonstrate what they say their 'speciality' is - let an inventor demonstrate a gadget, let a falconer do a task with their bird(s), let a researcher tell you about some workings of magic or whatever.
Lore knowledge and logic are also very important, but seeing as that is more of an ooc thing, maybe it'd be better to just have a /w talk with them about how important they think it is to stick to lore and where they see characters' power limits.
Assassin field test could just be a weapon demonstration (or perhaps an emote battle against someone else). Spies could do something similar to what we did with Edwin, trying to get a bit of information out of another agent, or observe an area/staged happenings to report about. Specialists... hm... something to demonstrate what they say their 'speciality' is - let an inventor demonstrate a gadget, let a falconer do a task with their bird(s), let a researcher tell you about some workings of magic or whatever.
Lore knowledge and logic are also very important, but seeing as that is more of an ooc thing, maybe it'd be better to just have a /w talk with them about how important they think it is to stick to lore and where they see characters' power limits.
Kylora- Posts : 34
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Oakscent wrote:the assassin tree can go on a simple assassination
But where do we get a target to assassinate every time we try to recruit someone, and would our superiors really allow us to make a civilian nub assassinate anything?
Kylora wrote:something
These suggestions sound easier to pull off in a recruitment situation, though simultaneously less fun... Hmm.
Oakscent wrote:just because they know some lore, doesn't mean their character would.
Kyylyyra wrote:Lore knowledge and logic is also very important, but seeing as that is more of an ooc thing, maybe it'd be better to just have a /w talk with them about how important they think it is to stick to lore and where they see characters' power limits.
What we can do is ask race-related things or something basically everyone on Azeroth would know.
Logical thinking is obviously necessary for our agents, so it's very much an IC thing as well... but I think I see what you mean. Maybe it could be a part of the personality test?
These sound good, though a lot of people will probably just say what they think we want to hear. Nonetheless, I'd add these in the interview / possible personality test.Classy elf wrote:Considering recent developments, a string of "what would you do if someone above you in rank gave you an order you don't agree with" and/or "what would you do if someone above you in rank went rogue" is probably a good idea.
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True..But it doesn't have to be a real assassination. More of a scenario where if the interviewee gets to the point where it would be successful then that's enough. For example a knife held to said target's throat, or successfully poisoning a food supply. So we can have the target as one of us.
Also for questions, remember the training session I did where I gave scenarios and asked them how they would deal with the situation? We could use that?
Also for questions, remember the training session I did where I gave scenarios and asked them how they would deal with the situation? We could use that?
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Yeah, I guess. But again, who will be the target? It's risky having one of our own agents do it...
And yeah can't remember the questions very well, but perhaps!
And yeah can't remember the questions very well, but perhaps!
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For the whole lore steadfastness: make the recruit 'socialize' with someone from the guild of the same race? In general, that seems to make it apparent if their grip on their character isn't very good. Random thought D:
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